{"id":49134,"date":"2021-06-09T12:00:15","date_gmt":"2021-06-09T16:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/?p=49134"},"modified":"2021-06-09T12:00:23","modified_gmt":"2021-06-09T16:00:23","slug":"will-my-uk-pension-affect-my-us-social-security","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/2021\/06\/will-my-uk-pension-affect-my-us-social-security\/","title":{"rendered":"Will My UK Pension Affect My US Social Security?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I am 57 years old, was born in the UK, and since 1988 have worked in the US. I have always paid US taxes and Social Security. For the last 20 years, my annual income has typically been well north of $100K. In recent years I have made voluntary payments to the UK National Insurance system looking to claim a retirement benefit from the UK as well as from the US. My concern is that if I claim the UK benefit, this will affect my US Social Security claim. Any insight you can share will be appreciated.&nbsp;<strong>Signed: Worried<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/social-security-cards.imgcache.revace32c2b8bbcc675ad2fa1c0db913ca6-1024x588.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-49135\" width=\"404\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/social-security-cards.imgcache.revace32c2b8bbcc675ad2fa1c0db913ca6-1024x588.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/social-security-cards.imgcache.revace32c2b8bbcc675ad2fa1c0db913ca6-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/social-security-cards.imgcache.revace32c2b8bbcc675ad2fa1c0db913ca6-768x441.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelehighacresgazette.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/social-security-cards.imgcache.revace32c2b8bbcc675ad2fa1c0db913ca6.jpg 1140w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 404px) 100vw, 404px\" \/><figcaption>Social Security Cards<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Dear Worried<\/strong>:&nbsp;If you have 30 or more years of U.S. employment where you paid into Social Security via payroll taxes on \u201csubstantial\u201d earnings, your U.K. pension will not affect your U.S. Social Security benefit when you claim it. Social Security\u2019s definition of \u201csubstantial\u201d earnings is different for each year but, generally, if you worked full time in the U.S. and paid into Social Security via payroll taxes since 1988, the so-called Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) won\u2019t affect your US Social Security benefits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a link to Social Security\u2019s WEP definition which includes a table of \u201csubstantial\u201d earnings needed to count for WEP purposes:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/r20.rs6.net\/tn.jsp?f=001Mu8Vzg9O7vC3sLEXHe9bJRRs_HM9gPuu9XzxaPRztzxyR0LeF3f1j04y2LvPGpoYeIkYeaGB1LC_RMsbaERvmKM_h_Nhq2h-IeERPAT4jFZl2oSPl293OaOK5OHbR1ue7AH6QkF5JyquP_o8hRxVX9okXhJceMCC-m2bCqI8YKQ=&amp;c=XFohhZDYfiC-UxBXztWIQ-Z-XZqGsHjDrbaKiK3zzfCrHgWFypqGDA==&amp;ch=12UAyRZDN5TlakoHd6ihUjJsQg6p0o-R0zLTw_VjAXmJMw4JMnTT9Q==\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.ssa.gov\/pubs\/EN-05-10045.pdf<\/a>. The document at this link also describes how WEP works if you have less than 30 years of substantial U.S. earnings. With less than 30 years of substantial earnings on which you paid into Social Security your U.S. benefit will be reduced due to your U.K. pension. The amount of reduction would depend upon how many years of substantial SS-covered earnings you have, but in no case can the reduction be more than 50% of your U.K. pension.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If needed, you can get your Earnings Statement from Social Security, which will show your actual taxable SS earnings for each year to compare against the WEP substantial earnings chart found at the above link. The easiest way to get your Earnings Statement is via your \u201cMy Social Security\u201d online account. If you haven\u2019t yet set up your personal online account with SS, you can easily do so at this link:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/r20.rs6.net\/tn.jsp?f=001Mu8Vzg9O7vC3sLEXHe9bJRRs_HM9gPuu9XzxaPRztzxyR0LeF3f1jyYrouqy4UMaTfKCeUC1BBdYXYHINMEcHBlWqzTPKHhJXPVcyBMB-PqWRaFLm7eDdvWFjQnXwMXFBogxj2RrSguM21GK8nAg7g==&amp;c=XFohhZDYfiC-UxBXztWIQ-Z-XZqGsHjDrbaKiK3zzfCrHgWFypqGDA==&amp;ch=12UAyRZDN5TlakoHd6ihUjJsQg6p0o-R0zLTw_VjAXmJMw4JMnTT9Q==\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.ssa.gov\/myaccount<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the bottom line is this: If you have contributed to U.S. Social Security from \u201csubstantial\u201d earnings for at least 30 years, your Social Security benefit will not be affected by your U.K. pension; if you have less than 30 years of contributions to SS, it will. As you may know, you cannot collect your U.S. Social Security until you are at least age 62, but if you claim at that age your benefit amount will be reduced by 30%. You\u2019ll reach your full retirement age at age 67, and that is the point at which you will get 100% of what you\u2019ve earned by working in the U.S. \u2013 subject to WEP reduction only if you have less than 30 years of contributions to Social Security.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am 57 years old, was born in the UK, and since 1988 have worked in the US. I have always paid US taxes and Social Security. 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